Proposal 005-16: Recall of Co-Chair

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    I'd like to change my vote from Stand Aside to Agree.My decision to Agree is based on a proposal of two matters that need to be addressed:1) Racism is unacceptable at any level of our society, and should not be a part of this group.  From his facebook, he hasn't shown much racism but more sexism.  He has also clearly shown off that he is clearly ignorant, not supportive of the Presidential Candidate Jill Stein and not representing the party correctly, which brings me to the second issue2) Private FaceBook accounts v Public FaceBook Accounts : If people in a position want to use facebook, they should probably make a separate public facebook regarding their standing as a public official and keep a private one if they need to go on blast and vent from time to time to their friends and loved ones.  Or just use the telephone again to call people, either way...  I bring this up because this should be the next issue addressed and resolved on a state and possibly even a national level, if other party chapters haven't already done this.I do agree after reading over everything again.  Bill, although I do not know you, never met you, and it is nothing personal, I would have to also Agree you are not doing your end and living up to that office regardless of how much importance you place in it, people are placing their trust in you to do the job and be as squeaky clean as possible doing it.  I mean let's be honest, most of the politicians in DC are crooks, but they know how to play the part of the clean upstanding citizen.  So yea due to you airing out your dirty laundry all over a social medium while you are suppose to represent the party, also putting down the chosen Presidential candidate, thwarting the goal of 5%, I am going to have to Agree with your removal.

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    AgreeAdams County

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    Agree.

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    Bob Kinsey
    Member

    Stand Aside–While I agree that being publicly drunk and disorderly while in a Green Party booth– admittedly so drunk he can't remember what he said or did –is an impeachable offense when it comes to a representative of the party, I am chagrined that this issue was brought up so late and within the context of the disagreement between Arn, Bill, and Andrea over Amendment 69.  This too should have been brought to a proposal much earlier since the Green Party (and me as US Senate Candidate in 2008 and 2010) have endorsed single payer and sought the elective support of HCAC as the only party really committed to their agenda.  How that slipped under the rug at the State Meeting is beyond me but I think I remember Bill saying that Andrea didn't want to deal with it then and kept it off the agenda.      I do believe that this issue is a part of the animus that led Bill to act out because he  believed we should have been endorsing it at that time but allowed that discussion to be put off.  Then Arn felt unsupported in his stance in favor of ColoradoCare.  In my opinion we had a responsibility to deal with this issue.    My judgement is that Bill has done a lot of good things for the party taking leadership along with Art when we were at a very difficult place.  Now we are back at square one hurling personal charges at each other rather than working together while privately disciplining Bill.    I also believe that Andrea has added incredible organizational skills and leadership (I can't understand how she can be Denver co-chair, State co-chair, National Rep and now national co-chair and keep it all together. but she seems to be functioning well though she seems to have some detractors.)    Bottom line,  I think it is irresponsible for us to be dealing with this important but divisive  matter rather than attempting to get our campaign responsibilities as efficient and effective as possible these last 50 days.    I have spent too much time reading all this stuff trying to sort through fact from hurt feelings, rather than on what  I wanted to be doing to forward  Jill and Arn's campaigns.    At least the GP-PPR has managed to study ColoradoCare and to finally vote to endorse it.  My phone banking hasn't happened, but we have held 3 honk and wave signings so far with signs for ARN and JILL and REGISTER GREEN-VOTE GREEN!      It would be nice for there to be some reporting about how our efforts are going and how we are welcoming the Berners into the party. 

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    This proposal looks as though it will fail, but either way the GPCO has already lost. Letting this vote continue simply proves that we didn't stumble, and instead are striding squarely into foolishness. The newest members of this council suffer the most. Allowing the group to eat one of their own sets a bad precedent, and I didn't lend my talents to this party to be served up for dinner. This isn't how Greens behave toward one another, and someone has to start proving that point. Some of our veteran members have given me hope that this party can recover quickly from this mob rule and lend their ample wisdom in restoring order to this great ship called the GPCO. To those that fought for me to remain, thank you for your support during this storm.  We may be able to recover from this conflict, but there are more to come.  Remember that leadership doesn't begin or end with a title, and a movement doesn't begin or end in a political party. Though I will no longer serve as co-chair, I remain dedicated to the issues and communities that need representation.  This council is losing it's ability to guide itself by the spirit of the 10KVs. When it has found it's way back to that spirit, I'll consider rejoining state leadership. Let my walking away be a rallying cry to this council and our Colorado Greens that want to remain focused on issues and candidates rather than murmurs and accusations.

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    Laura C.
    Member

    Stand Aside.  I agree completely with Bob Kinsey's comments.  I have been a member of the Green Party for roughly six years.  I have worked with Bill and Andrea.  I observed Bill help with conflict within the Denver Greens several years ago and was able to help us overcome some issues.  I have talked to several people lately and expressed my concerns and thoughts.  I talked to Bill about issues regarding sexism.  I haven't been a girl for 50 years and I do not want to be called girl.  I have worked to eliminate that reference from the call center I help manage.  I have experienced sexism and will speak up and out about that.  Yes, I'm a feminist and proud of it.  I can't speak to racism because I am white and have not experienced it.  I do, however, know that a black man with whom I work, and for whom I have a very high regard, having been asked by Aurora police if he would agree to be handcuffed while they spoke to him.  He's tall, 6'4″, and he agreed.  I seriously doubt any white man is going to experience that.  As Bob indicated, I wish we had dealt with the various issues sooner, but this is where we are today.  I appreciate the fact Bill has stepped aside so hopefully we can continue up to elections unhindered. 

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    Laura C.
    Member

    And I failed to mention that I also agree with Bob that Andrea has done a tremendous amount of work/effort for the Green Party.  Due to her efforts, Denver is becoming a much stronger chapter.  I have been primarily absent, so I give credit where credit is due.

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    Bob Kinsey
    Member

    Now that Bill has resigned as co-chair who will be his replacement.  Any volunteers?  Lets get on with the task at hand — supporting Arn and Jill's campaign as best we can with positive responses to the negativity being sown by so called Progressive folks and the lies and uninformed prejudices being pandered to by the Republican party. 

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